I wrote this piece in response to a pervasive pattern of despair. Since I was responding to a specific Times and Seasons post I submitted it to them as a guess post and they were gracious enough to post it. You can read it here and its republished below:
I read Johnathan Green’s post and because the underlying
flaws have been repeated at least three times over the past year, I thought it
was worth a substantive response, and it was too long for comments. There’s a
lot of heat, hyperbole, and moral posturing in his post, but very little that
holds up under scrutiny. I take strong exception to his exaggerations, false
equivalence, and the assumption that his political lens should dictate the
Church’s actions.
Screaming “Nazi” louder is not an argument. He treated “warning
signs” as functionally equivalent to moral certainty. Using German terms to
dress up Nazi comparisons doesn’t make them more persuasive, it just adds
rhetorical heat without light. As a result, much of his post rests on false
equivalence and superficial similarities rather than serious analysis.
He said in point three that the Church should “ignore the
administration,” yet the post itself spends thousands of words obsessing over
it. That contradiction matters, because point four revealed the underlying
assumption: that the Church should function as an arm of his political views. I
used to think that way too, that the Church should take a forceful position on
every partisan controversy. That was twenty years ago and frankly, I grew up.
The Church is not my political representative. It teaches principles that allow
members to vote, persuade, and act in the public square on their own
responsibility.
He’ll probably respond that his post was a “strategic”
argument about institutional survival rather than personal fixation. But
strategy still reveals priorities. When every hypothetical risk is filtered
through one political diagnosis, that diagnosis becomes the guiding authority, functionally
replacing the Church’s own judgment with Green’s.
The Church’s primary concern is ministering to the members
it already has. We saw this in its restrained statement on the Russian invasion
of Ukraine: as strong as possible while preserving its ability to support
members and maintain its global mission. That same logic applies here.
There’s also an implicit claim throughout that Green knows
better than the prophets and apostles. If God had a direct, binding political
message about Donald Trump, I assume we would have heard it from them. He
defined “threats to the Church’s mission” in a way that mirrored his political hysteria.
He appealed to Abinadi and Bonhoeffer to argue that prophets
speak in principle rather than names. I can name a half dozen instances in the
Bible where prophets directly name the wicked ruler but let’s go with his
point. He went further and treated his interpretation of those principles as if
it carries the same moral authority as prophetic judgment. That’s the move I’m
rejecting.
Points five and six repeated the same demand in softer
language: he wanted the Church to endorse his position. It hasn’t, because its
mission is ministering, not issuing grand political declarations that satisfy a
political minority from a single country within a global church. He might claim
he only wanted the church to act when faced with a clear red line, but that red
line just happened to be what Green’s political beliefs say it was.
He framed this as setting “red lines,” not seeking
endorsement. But those red lines did not come from institutional revelation,
global consensus, measurable harm, or even a consensus of LDS national security
professionals—they came from his own political risk model. Calling that a moral
threshold doesn’t make it one.
Phrases like “surveillance by a corrupt, vindictive,
unchecked personalist autocracy” read less like analysis and more like a
political Gish gallop. Voters clearly weren’t persuaded by that framing.
Yelling it louder won’t change that.
He correctly noted that “getting upset over someone else’s
silence is actively harmful,” yet most of the post is a sustained complaint
about the Church’s silence. That tension ran through the whole piece.
Point seven genuinely made me laugh. My life is fine under
this government. I voted for border security, strict immigration enforcement,
and a strong foreign policy. Inflation has stabilized, gas prices are
reasonable, and I have the sense that someone is finally in charge. That calm
is not a luxury based on my race, gender, or class. Unless a person lets it
through their own hysteria or misdeeds, the government doesn’t affect much of your
life.
The discomfort Green described felt less like lived reality
and more like a self-reinforcing media spiral: every action is filtered as
sinister, which heightens anxiety, which then seeks out more bad news.
His Gish gallop in the comments about there only being “one
side” shows the harm of that cycle. Screaming “concentration camp”, “starving
children”, and “torture”, might feel morally righteous or advance a partisan
case, but it also heightens anxiety and escalates conflict. In short, it hurts
as much as it helps.
The healthier response is simple: consume less political
media, touch grass, respect differing views, and count your blessings—basic
Church principles. Screaming, “but he’s a nazi” when you’re asked to calm down
and show respect is a ludicrous substitute for reasoned engagement and more of
the problem.
Green insisted that the Church shouldn’t threaten its own
mission but repeatedly argue that it should adopt his political mission. “You
should be appalled” isn’t a neutral principle—its Green’s emotional filter
presented as moral obligation. To people who don’t share it, this comes off as
unhinged, and even deranged, not persuasive.
Green’s Trump–King Noah comparison is another false
equivalence. Noah wasn’t elected. He raised taxes to intolerable levels; Trump
reduced them and talks about tariff rebates. Noah imprisoned and tortured
dissidents; Trump enforces immigration law, including against violent
criminals. You can oppose that policy, and perhaps think it’s immoral, but
calling it tyranny by analogy doesn’t make it so.
Green claimed Trump and his supporters “rejoice in
bloodshed.” As a former Marine and military analyst, I find that
condescending—and a reflection of the privilege of living in peace and
security. Wanting a strong defense and feeling pride in providing it is not
rejoicing in bloodshed; it’s more like Captain Moroni rejoicing in the welfare
and protection of his people.
You might claim some of Trumps military actions are
fascistic. But debates over presidential war powers found in Article II Section
II of the constitution have been a feature of our government since Thomas
Jefferson. Not part of a fascist dictatorship.
When Green invoked Abinadi, he placed himself in the role of
calling both fellow saints and Church leaders to repentance for not opposing
Trump as he thinks they should. That circles back to the same contradiction: he
says the Church isn’t political but then condemns it for not being political in
the right way.
He’ll say this is about obedience versus resistance under
tyranny, not about Trump. But that only works if the premise, that we are
already living under something functionally equivalent to tyranny, is
established. He assumed the premise; he didn’t demonstrate it.
Point 15 mentioned many recent, good talks. But scriptures
should be used to examine our own conduct, not to bludgeon fellow members. If
we’re staying in the Book of Mormon, Alma’s work of knitting hearts together in
unity, even with love towards our fellow enemies, seems the better model.
I agreed with one line in point sixteen: “Anticipatory
despair is not a form of resistance.” That’s the clearest and strongest
sentence in the entire post. The answer to despair is more time with family,
friends, and neighbors, not arrogantly browbeating them into repentance for
voting differently than you.
Finally, the insider language such as “cringe resist libs”
and “MWEG moms” doesn’t clarify anything. That insider framing is telling. It
signaled that his argument was aimed less at persuading a broad body of saints
and more at rallying a politically fluent in-group that already shared his
sense of impending catastrophe.
The Church has survived lynch mobs, federal invasion,
disincorporation, KGB surveillance, and Hitler—it will survive this political
moment too, without Green’s help. His post amplifies anxiety, casts fellow
members and leaders as moral failures for not sharing his political conclusions
and confuses personal panic with institutional necessity. Inflating warning
signs into moral certainties and treating his interpretation as Church
directive does nothing to build unity, influence policy responsibly, or foster
understanding—it is simply noise. If we are serious about clarity, faithful
witness, and real community, we need charity and reason, not labels, hysteria,
or overreach.
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